Leadership is Feminine

WITH KRIS PLACHY

Nurturing Future Leaders with Intent and Grace from Dr. Camysha Wright

May 27, 2024

   

Are you building a business with intention? Have you thought about the kind of culture you want to cultivate in the workplace? This week on Leadership is Feminine, host Kris Plachy, talks with her guest, Dr. Camysha Wright about what it looks like to be a practicing physician and how to thoughtfully create a workplace with grace and empathy.

Dr. Wright is a board certified otorhinolaryngologist, otherwise known as an ENT. She serves on the board of governors for the Florida Society of Otolaryngologists, and operates her own practice for going on 10 years. She is also a published author who recently released Breathe Easy: An Overview of Allergies and the Unified Airway.

In their discussion, Dr. Wright discusses the importance of meeting patients where they are and how her book aims to provide a simple resource for patients to be able to identify what they are experiencing when it comes to allergy and inflammation-related illnesses.

Dr. Wright also details her experience of what it was like to build a business. “As a physician… I would say that we get a lot of training about medicine, about how to save a life… but you don’t get any really direct guidance on how to run a business or how to lead your team.” She stresses the importance of intentionality, respect for employees, and building a rock-solid team. She's all about creating turnover opportunities for growth and attracting top talent with a culture of empathy and grace.

So, whether you're a young female doctor stepping into your own practice, or just keen on some top-tier leadership advice, this episode is packed with gems to elevate your game. Tune in to Leadership is Feminine and let's make leadership more inclusive, intentional, and empowering together!

Guest Bio

Dr. Wright received her Medical Degree from Howard University College of Medicine in Washington, DC and graduated with A0A honors. Dr. Wright completed a General Surgery Internship and Otolaryngology Residency at University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston, Texas. She also obtained her Master of Public Health degree

Dr. Wright is a member of the American Medical Association and the American Academy of Otolaryngology Head and Neck Surgery. She is also board certified by the American Board of Otolaryngology and is a Fellow of the American Academy of Otolaryngic Allergy. Dr. Wright served as Clinical Assistant Professor at Florida State University College of Medicine Fort Pierce Campus for 4 years, teaching medical students about Otolaryngology.

Dr. Wright offers evaluation and treatment for the full range of problems affecting the ears, nose and throat. She has advanced training in Allergy, which is her focused area of interest. Dr. Wright’s goal is to provide the highest quality care through a balance of grace, empathy, and innovation.

Website: thewrightent.com

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Key Takeaways From This Episode

  1. Intentional Leadership and Team Building

  2. Fostering Employee Growth and Turnover: Attracting top talent and future leaders through intentional culture building

  3. Creating a Thriving Culture in Healthcare: Balancing empathy and grace with maintaining clear standards

  4. Leadership Advice for Women Doctors: Self-understanding and defining business values

  5. Progress in Women's Leadership: Creating pathways for more women to become prominent leaders

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Transcript

Kris Plachy:
Okay. I'm just tickled. I always am tickled when I have the chance to interview and spend any more extra time with my amazing clients. So I'm thrilled to have Dr. Camysha Wright with us today. And Dr. Wright, as we all call her, in good company. Let's see, you have been working with me, you did How to CEO, you did Empathic CEO because you are one. And now you've been in the Sage program since we started.

Kris Plachy:
So you are the og of Sages, right? You and Danielle, right? You're the two. But you're also and a very accomplished physician which we will talk about and recently very accomplished author which we will talk about and have several other distinctions in your profession. And of course nothing is stopping you. I know you have a lot more ambition and things you want to do in the world, so I just love when I get a sliver of time extra with you because your brain is gorgeous and so are you. So tell us, Dr. Wright, who you are, tell us about you.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
Thank you, Kris. That was such an amazing introduction and ditto for you. I mean it's been, you've just been such a blessing. I call you like my angel in disguise working with you and the way that you've opened up my mind and the way that my mindset has changed has been amazing. Okay, so I'm doctor Camysha Wright and I'm a board certified otorhinolaryngologist, or ENT for short.

Kris Plachy:
Thank you. For those of us who don't know what that is and I've been working with you for four years, I still can't say it. Odal. I still can't. So antiviral.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
I like saying it in Spanish better, actually. Like, I love it.

Kris Plachy:
Oh, say it again.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
Otorino laryngolojia.

Kris Plachy:
Oh yes. Very fancy. Sounds very sophisticated. Yeah.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
But basically just ENT. We look at the ears to nose and the throat and I have my own practice for going on ten years now. I'm in a larger group. So it's kind of interesting the way that we have it organized because basically we have our own individual practices but then we operate under like a larger like group number or whatever, like negotiated with insurances and things like that. So we get a nice blend where we can kind of have our own business but then also like have a nice niche where we can, you know, do what we like.

Kris Plachy:
Yeah, you have some freedom in there.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
Some freedom in there and then also you can talk to your colleagues and have some, some, you know, conversations going on there. So I have that for a private practice. I'm also the allergy director for that group. There's like over 90 different ENTs in our group. And when, if they have an allergy issue, they are able to either figure it out on their own or kind of like, you know, send a little, you know, conversation out to me and we try and figure out some type of answer to kind of fix their.

Kris Plachy:
The expert. And you tell us you're in Florida, right?

Dr. Camysha Wright:
I am in Florida, yes.

Kris Plachy:
You run that. You are in that role for 90 other physicians across the state of Florida.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
Yeah, across the state of Florida, from Miami all the way up to, like, the Panama city, like destiny, from north to south.

Kris Plachy:
So if you live in Florida and you have really tricky allergy issues.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
Yeah.

Kris Plachy:
If you see a different doctor, they're likely consulting with Doctor Wright. Or you should just go see Doctor Wright because your practice is in what, Fort Lauderdale or Fort Lucy? Or Fort Lucy. I cannot remember.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
It's in plantation.

Kris Plachy:
Plantation.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
Yeah, it's just west of Fort Lauderdale. So, like about half an hour from there, you're saying Port St. Lucie. Because I do have some, like, ties up in Port St. Lucie.

Kris Plachy:
That's what I thought. I'm like, I know there's all the place and there's. And Florida is like California. It's like everything. Is that near Miami, right? Like people are always saying to me, oh, do you live near San Francisco? I'm like, well, 2 hours, you know, it's fine. Yeah, okay, so.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
And, yeah, I mean, as far as, like, for medicine, I've been very blessed. So, you know, so I've had my own individual practice. I also try and do, like, a lot of, like, advocacy. So I was the most recent past president for the Florida Society of Otolaryngologists. Currently, I'm on like the board of governors. So that, you know, so basically for all the different otolaryngologists, you know, across the country, we'll, we'll have, you know, meetings and so forth and talk about the, the current issues and concepts. The annual meeting is going to be down here in Miami. So I'm kind of one of like the little poster child, like, advertising for it and trying to kind of get Florida, you know, some get our name out there for, like, all the other people, although the older learning colleges from across the country and world who are going to come down and visit us and, you know, learn more about what we're doing here.

Kris Plachy:
Yeah. With a lot of advocacy. Right. For your profession and the needs that your doctors have. Right. Through that association, the work you do.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
Absolutely. I mean, because there's always so many things changing on the healthcare front. And so, like, one of the things that, you know, is very important to me is obviously, like, educating not only like, myself, but, like, my patients and then other doctors so that we can understand, like, you know, changes that can affect our businesses and also, like, the way that we manage our patients and play a huge role-

Kris Plachy:
I'm sure. Yeah, that's an ongoing battle. I know we have several doctor clients in the different programs that I run, and that's, that's a whole other conversation for the impact that things are having on physicians in general. Right?

Dr. Camysha Wright:
Absolutely. That would be, like, another day.

Kris Plachy:
So a couple of years ago, you said out loud, I want to write a book.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
Yes.

Kris Plachy:
And so then you did. And I remember when we were in Rhode Island, AI just started coming out, and you were sitting up in your room. We were at the Sage retreat, and you were like, look at these pictures that. Right. And we, and I don't think that this was actually one of the ones that we saw, but you were - I just remember it was so fun to, like, realize, like, 'wow, you can do such cool stuff by defining what you wanted'. And I know you worked on this book when we were all together, so breathe easy is an absolutely beautiful book, and it's an incredible title.

Kris Plachy:
Right. For an ENT allergist specialist to write, because so much as you have taught me so much about our health and our well being is rooted in our ability or our lack of ability to breathe. Right.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
So true. I mean, I wrote the book primarily because I was getting a lot of, you know, you start out as a doctor, you see your patients, and you see a lot of, like, the same type of questions. You know, every day people will say, "Well, I'm not sure that my sinuses are acting up." And it could be their sinuses or it could be an allergy or it could be something else, and there was just a lot of confusion there. And I. And I. And I noted that I was saying the same thing over and over again. So I was like, how can I get this information out to people in a different format? And many times, like, many doctors will tell you, like, or if you go to the doctor, we say so many things to you, it's hard to remember everything.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
So to have a resource that you could just go to, to just reference a quick thing here or a quick thing there I thought would be useful.

Kris Plachy:
It's so useful. Yeah. And you have such a, you know, even in conversation, because obviously, when we're all together, people ask you things because you're a doctor. Yeah. It's the way it works. And you just have a way of making things make sense. And there's a simplicity to it.

Kris Plachy:
You know, there's a complexity to what you do. But as a, as a patient or as a layman, you really help explain why there could be a host of symptoms.Like, one of the things I know you and I have talked about, like, I get, I get, my throat gets kind of hoarse in the mornings, and it's because I have creamer, real cream in my, I have actual cream in my cream. But I'm not willing to change that. Right.

Kris Plachy:
Because I, but I know I have an allergy. I totally have an allergy, but I will not give it up.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
That's one of the chapters of the book, too. We talk about food allergies in that. Cause you're right. Cause we don't always put two and two together.

Kris Plachy:
No.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
It's like how different triggers could cause different symptoms.

Kris Plachy:
No. Okay. This is hysterical. I don't think I've told you this. So. I've been married to my husband for 27 years. Yeah. We've been together for 29.

Kris Plachy:
This year it'll be 33 years ago. This man loves peanut butter. He puts peanut butter on apples. He eats nuts. He, like, he'll eat a handful of nuts, peanuts, almonds, cashews. Yeah. All of it. Right.

Kris Plachy:
Protein things with peanut butter. Right. All. All the things, yeah. And every time he has it, he starts coughing. Every time.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
Every single time.

Kris Plachy:
I'm like, three years ago, I'm like, you know, you have an allergy of peanuts and nuts. Look at. Every time. And now it's hysterical because every night he has a Reese's peanut butter cup for dessert. Every night he starts coughing. And I'm like, okay, I'm just, we probably should keep an epipen because one of these days that thing's going to kick you over the edge. But it's just so insidious.

Kris Plachy:
There's so many things in our lives. Right? And you talk also about, like, there's the, there's the external ones, and then there's what that does sort of in your system. Right. Like having, when you don't, when you have inflammation from allergies, how does that affect how you breathe? Right. So do you want to talk a little bit about.

Kris Plachy:
About that, just for the layman listeners?

Dr. Camysha Wright:
Well, yeah, I mean, that was one of the reasons why I wrote the book exactly how you described it. I tried to make it very simple. I had one of my doctor colleagues, like, review it for me. He goes, this is way too simple. I'm like, it's not written for you. It's written for patients. If we're, like, a normal person. One of the things that is a key avenue that I delve into with the book is the fact that our airway is unified.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
When you have inflammation, say, like, in your nose or your upper airway, it can actually affect more distal parts or, like, distant parts of your body, like your lungs and things like that. So when there's, like, a baseline of inflammation, you breathe in, say, a certain allergen, let's just say dust, and it goes into your nose, and you breathe it in. And then these little allergy cells come and seize that. They're like, I don't like that. Obviously, it's trying to attack me. And they, like, explode, for lack of a better way. And we saw these, like, chemicals that are, that cause your body to have a reaction.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
That reaction causes the symptoms. You can get congestion or post nasal drip. But while it can happen in your nose, sometimes those same chemicals can be, you know, stimulated in other parts of your body. And so with allergies, can have other conditions, like asthma. You know, the nasal congestion can cause you to get some severe nasal blockage in your nose, which can lead to problems like nasal congestion or, like, sleep apnea being a contributing factor to that. And while sleep, you know, while snoring and being congested isn't, like, the end of the world, having something serious like sleep. Sleep apnea could lead to more serious conditions.

Kris Plachy:
Absolutely. Well, and that for sure. You know, I got diagnosed with apnea, what? Five. I'm five, four or five years in, and I was young. I was in my, what, mid, early, late forties, I guess, when I got diagnosed. And I have a whole family who has it, but that has changed my life to be able to literally to breathe. Right. You don't realize when you have apnea and you don't know you don't have it.

Kris Plachy:
Did I just say that right? You don't realize that there's, you know, a good chunk of time that you're not breathing. Yeah. And for a lot of women I know who are kind of roughly in our age group. Right. There's a lot of women who don't sleep well. And I know there's a host of reasons why that could be happening, but one of the things I always tell people is, like, I would request a sleep study because you don't know. And not everybody who snores has apnea.

Kris Plachy:
Right, right. Vice versa. Yeah. Yeah.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
I mean, because, you know, we have a, have a snoring chapter. And I was like, hey, you know, just because you're snoring, I mean, that could be annoying, but we want to make sure that we rule out just the annoying snoring from something serious.

Kris Plachy:
Right.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
Apnea is actually you're holding your breath for 10 seconds. You know, we have this thing called apnea hypopnea index that we look at on our sleep study. And apnea is when you're holding your breath. Hypopnea is when you're, like, doing really shallow breathing. So you're breathing not enough where you're getting good air or oxygen. And both of those can have, you know, really terrible effects of your body, you know, over time, you know, you're not getting enough, you know, blood flow with good oxygenation to your brain, to your heart, to all the different parts of your body that need it. And you can have a higher risk for having a stroke. You can have a higher risk for having a heart attack.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
I've had patients who had, you know, family members undiagnosed and they die in their sleep. And friends of mine who- 50, stroke. I'm like, this is crazy. And when things like that were happening, I'm like, we need to really get the word out that people know about this because it's really an epidemic that can be fixed.

Kris Plachy:
I love. I mean, I know that wasn't the point of really this podcast, but I do want to say, like, I think it's really important. And because I also, you know, I'm very open about it. I'm. Listen, I don't love that I have it, but I like to breathe, and I like to breathe easy. I have a bipAp, so I breathe very well. But the amount of people now that I know who have, who have apnea, who you wouldn't think they do, they're not severely overweight, they're not- right? There's all these sort of stereotypes.

Kris Plachy:
They're not a hundred year old man. Like, there's these stereotypes with it that have really, I think, affected how we help people to get diagnosed. And I, if it were up to me, I would, you know, once people get to be a certain age, I would just do a sleep study because it has to mitigate the expense on the tail end of heart disease, Afib, all the other things that we know happen. My mom had undiagnosed apnea until she was in her mid seventies and too late, she had to get a pacemaker. She has Afib, so the damage had been done. So anyway, I just think your book, for all of you listening, you know, we take for granted that we breathe until we can, right, until we get a cold even, or a sinus infection or, you know, some sort of flare up or pneumonia or whatever, and it's not all. And in fact, I would bet you would say the majority of the issues that we face are not because of a virus. It's other things that are going on in either in the environment or your body's reaction to it.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
Yeah.

Kris Plachy:
And we talked about that.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
Yeah. During my chapter, you know, I was, I go into like, you know, I wanted to start out with just having everyone understand, like, hey, you know, you, you're stuffy. So what does this mean? And I try to do a differentiation with it. It could be allergies, it could be a viral infection, or it could be a sinus infection. A sinus infection can be caused by a virus. All sinus infection is, is just inflammation in the sinus cavities, the little hollow areas of your face that, you know, cause it to, you know, get good air and so forth.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
And so if you have a sinus infection for, like, that started out as a virus, but then it didn't clear up within about seven to ten days, well, then you could get a secondary bacterial infection, and that's why the doctors, like myself, will give you an antibiotic. But if you have a sinus infection that's lasted forever, like for months, then that could either be a chronic sinus infection or you could have a confounding issue where you have allergies.

Kris Plachy:
Yeah, yeah. That's just continuing to perpetuate inflammation and. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.I just think that we're so, all of, the more physicians I have in my world, the more I realize how little we know. Right. And WebMD and Google are not really the best resources because most of the time you're going to find out that you're going to die. If you Google any symptom up, it's always back to like, well, so you should all go get.

Kris Plachy:
Breathe easy because this is like, it really is like a layman's. It's, you know, I love even how I'm going to show the inside because there's like, pictures. Let's see if I can get to a couple.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
Right.

Kris Plachy:
Hello. I know. I just saw a few. Where are you? Pictures. Well, that was useful. There's pictures and it's really written - there you go - It's written for you and me people, not other physician people.

Kris Plachy:
And I think it's a great book to have in your house if you have kids, if you also have your own issues. It's kind of your little guide to, 'hmm, I keep feeling this way. I wonder what's happening. This is happening to me. I can't deal with this. I can't taste things right now. What's that about?' And so I think Doctor Wright has really built a very useful and simple household resource.

Kris Plachy:
And I think also what's so great is that you really are available. So if you have issues as a, as a person and you are not been able to resolve those, you know, I don't know what the, the way things are in states and all the way things happen, but if you want to go to Florida and see Doctor Wright, you probably should because she's a freaking expert and she's really good at what she does and I'm a fan of experts.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
Thank you, Kris.

Kris Plachy:
Right. I just like, I just want to always know where, who's the expert.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
Open for everyone for sure.

Kris Plachy:
Yeah, I, that's what I mean, I would go there when I was in Florida, you took care of me, so I'm in like it's, it'll work for me. Yeah. I like to have a doctor in every state. Why not? It's kind of. Okay. So let's just touch a little bit too on you and the fact that you are also this. You know, you're an accomplished physician, an accomplished expert in your field, now published author, soon to be another one. I know you have another idea in the back of your head that you're working on.

Kris Plachy:
What do you think it takes to be a woman in the world that you're in, especially as a physician? And lead, and lead well?

Dr. Camysha Wright:
You know, I learned a lot from your program. Cause I mean as a physician, you know, I would say that we get a lot of training about medicine, about how to save a life, which is also very important, but you don't get any like really direct guidance on how to run a business, on how to lead your team. So I actually learned a lot from doing your program. I learned how to set up an actual guideline and get the rules and regulations in place and how to set my expectations and be able to hold people to those expectations. That is actually something I actually learned after being in medicine. Not to plug you, but I would say probably if they don't know that, they should probably look you up too to try and get some.

Kris Plachy:
Yes. And I'll take it. But what do you think, though? Was the, was the, was the switch, though? Because you really are quite effective as a leader, Camysha. I mean, you're a very approachable woman in general, but you, you've built, you know, an organization. It's hard to build as a practitioner to find other people who can also do practitioner work and also take good care of your patients and have an administrative team that does that as well. And so what do you think you needed to get? Like, what was the gap that you walked over that you would say, you know, this is the thing probably for me, that has made leading and running a team not just a business.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
Yes.

Kris Plachy:
A little bit easier for you.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
I feel like it's more. So I had to really kind of get my intentions clear. Like what were my goals? Like what I really accomplished, you know, like, how do I want this, like, practice of business to look like and how do I want my team to look like?I will start for, you know, we wanted to practice, you know, medicine with grace and empathy and also be innovative. So we, we do that. And everything we try and actually have the best customer service and get back to people as much as possible. After the book, Breathe easy, I'm like, I'm going to change my motto so that our patients can breathe easy in any part of our practice. Not just health, but just from them calling us up, you know, "I don't got to worry about it.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
I can breathe easier because I'm dealing with Dr. Wright." And we just had to really be intentional about that and then have that kind of push us and everything that we do during an appointment, to following up on patients, to all the customer service. And then leading our team. I'm very intentional with how I try and be respectful for my employees and then, we're not like a family, but we're very well, I guess, well oiled, I'll just say, so that we all kind of know our parts, our roles, and we work together well.

Kris Plachy:
Well, and that's exactly it. Right. So you set the intention, you set the direction, you set the vibe. Right. It's like an ecosystem you've built. You built it on purpose, whereas what you, you know, what is true for most of us when we start a business, we don't do it on purpose because we're just trying to get, in your case, patients. I'm just trying to build a practice or trying to make it my practice. Right.

Kris Plachy:
And now that becomes simpler. And that's what I've watched over you, over with you over the few years here is, even though you've had transition in your team, the process after you've done it once. Right. If you have to replace positions again - which we always will all have to do, always - is that, it's not as emotional, it's not as angsty. It's more clear. It moves faster, because now you know what you're looking for and you know what you don't want.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
Yeah.

Kris Plachy:
So. Yeah.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
And, and that's also part of the intentionality, too, I think I spoke with you, like, so when I choose some of the employees who work in my practice, we tend to choose people who want to be future, like, doctors and future leaders. So we know that they're not going to stay with us forever, and we want them kind of go and grow and get to those next steps. So we have a lot of change and a lot of turnover intentionally because you also, they also care about their work, and they're like, they really want to learn, so they really want to help people and try to be strong and impress you. So, you know, it really works to our favor. But in that regard, I know there's always going to be a little bit of change, but I'm used to it now. I deal with it.

Kris Plachy:
Yeah. Because then you get, right, like, top talent wants to work for top leaders. Yeah. And so if you get that, as you build that reputation, which you're already obviously doing in your industry, right, there's going to be really great young talent that wants to come work with you and learn from you. And why.

Kris Plachy:
Why wouldn't you want that? Right. Because eventually one of those people will be the one that you could probably sell your business to. Right, right.And so I think it's such a, you know, we talked about at the Sage gathering that I just did in Sonoma, we talked about developing proteges instead of just hiring team members as founders. I think that's a valuable perspective. And there's one other thing I want to call out that you said to everybody listening, and that's that you talked about building a business that focused on empathy and grace. Yeah. And innovation.

Kris Plachy:
Yes. There's a lot of jibber jabber in the world that empathy and grace are soft skills. They're not as valuable. Right. And I think in your world as doctors is true in so many other industries, the value is placed on the science. And, yes, that matters. But what we know matters equally is being able to create a culture where both patients and people that work there feel good.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
Yes. So important, because, I mean, I mean, with any, you know, avenue of, like, you know, when people are working, I mean, healthcare, it could be very. A lot of people burn out. A lot of people get frustrated or get tired. So you have to, like, intentionally set a culture where, you know, it can be a place where people can thrive. And that's what I wanted to do when we started this practice.

Kris Plachy:
Yeah. And I think the longer, you know, that we're getting more and more into an era where that's expected by team members more so than it used to be. And so that's one of the edges that I believe women have. If you learn how to honor that, honor, empathy, honor, grace, hold space for that, but also still have clear expectations, clear standards, and you don't have fear around holding people to the agreements that they made when they said yes to working with you. Right?

Dr. Camysha Wright:
So true.

Kris Plachy:
Yeah. Yeah. So if you were going to talk to young women doctors who want to also have their own practice, what is the really the best piece of advice you would give them in terms of the leadership of their business, not necessarily the development of the practice?

Dr. Camysha Wright:
I mean, I actually, I'm very blessed that I actually have the opportunity to speak to some of our colleagues. That role, I'm a mentor. I get to teach with residents and medical students and such. So, I mean, usually what I'm approached with that I tell them, like, one of the things, first and foremost, is to figure out, like, your own mind, figure out, like, what it is that you. What you need and what you want. Because sometimes you may feel like everyone is, like, screwing this up or screwing this up, and it's just the way you're thinking about it or what have you. So I try and have them first focus on themselves, get support for themselves. I've learned that from you because many times we try and do everything and we don't support ourselves.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
And once you're more clear with who you are and what you want, then you can kind of have an idea about what will get you there. Like, what kind of team will get you there and how you can lead them, because you know what you want and what will make you happy. It's going to be different for everyone. Everyone's not going to be as maybe as empathetic as me. They maybe have a different personality, but you just have to know yourself.

Kris Plachy:
Exactly. Yeah, exactly. It's like the story I like to tell, right, about the client that you and I both know well, who also lives in Florida, who can be a little cheeky. And she, you know, she was frustrated because people she was hiring were like, too sensitive.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
Yeah.

Kris Plachy:
And I'm like, well, you have to tell people who you are. You have to say, this is what it's like here. We're a little sarcastic, we're a little cheeky, we kind of banter a lot. And you get that clear, you're going to get the right people in with you. So it's not just that you have to be empathetic and graceful like. No, but just be clear so that you're building a team that is representative of your values. Right. I love that.

Kris Plachy:
And I think the more we can give women that freedom to know it's okay. It doesn't have to look like Bob and Jim and John's business. Yeah, it can look like you.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
Unapologetic about that because we are being saying sorry or like, you know, just for being who you are as a person. It's crazy.

Kris Plachy:
Yeah, well, I was, you know, I was thinking about it the other day and it really is true that women have really only been in the kind of leadership role that you're in, that I'm in, that, you know, even within corporations for, since the, let's just call it the late sixties, early seventies max. Right. And even still, we got a long way to go. So it's understandable that the models we look at to learn from are not necessarily easy to emulate because they just don't align with how we kind of act and want to be in the world. And so I think that the more of us that share our stories and do our work and gain prominence both as leaders and experts, we create other pathways, other options for so many other women. So I just, it's, it's an honor to know you. You're such an understated genius, I think is what I would say about you when, when you talk to Camysha, she's just as you find her here on this video and this podcast, she is lovely. You're lovely and easy, friendly and, and yet you are like this high achieving, high producing, ambitious and innovative woman.

Kris Plachy:
And, you know, I know every time I meet up with you every couple of few months, I'm, I'm like, what are we going to do now? And there's always something. That's what I research. Yeah, you could do another thing if you want, but you have to tell me how you're going to support it if you do because it can't be all you. Right?

Dr. Camysha Wright:
I think the two research studies are good.

Kris Plachy:
Yeah, we'll stick with that for now before we open up a new business or write another book or take on a new program. I think it's fabulous. Okay, so where do people find you? I think I know you have a social presence and then what's your website and all the things?

Dr. Camysha Wright:
Yeah, so my website is thewrightent.com, so it's the right with a w. You can actually find links to all of my socials there as well as a link to my book. It's available on Amazon. Either paperback or Kindle or even audio version.

Kris Plachy:
Look at you.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
I know.

Kris Plachy:
I'm going to. We'll make sure that all the links are in the show notes for the podcast. But for now, please go follow Camysha. Buy her book. Get the book for yourself. Get the book for anyone you know who struggles with airway or just breathing in general, other issues. Great gift for new moms, I think for who are, you know, about to embark on all of the baby problems that all of us are terrified about.

Kris Plachy:
So anyway, I think there's a lot of great, great uses for having your book on some on your desk or in your bookshelf. So thank you. Thank you for writing it. Yeah. All right.

Dr. Camysha Wright:
Thank you for inviting me for this. I really had a great time. It's always a pleasure talking with you.

Kris Plachy:
Yes, nice to see you. I'll see you next time.Remember that I asked you to be a part of my Catalyst podcast event where I'm inviting you to become a visionary Catalyst, share the podcast link with women that you know. And as soon as you hit 20 shared links, click on those. We can measure that. I'm going to give you one of my bonus digital courses. Go to thevisionary.CEO/catalyst.

Kris Plachy:
Get yourself registered, grab the podcast link. Super easy. And please share it with women that you know that are leading in the world. Because I'd love to be able to impact 20 million women. I know that when women feel more confident in who they are as leaders, it changes who they are in their lives. Let's help women live and lead on their own terms. I can't wait to see how many clicks we get. Let's get it.

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